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	<title>Comments on: Coins from the Joseph Era found In Egypt!?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Weimer</title>
		<link>http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2009/09/25/coins-from-the-joseph-era-found-in-egypt/comment-page-1/#comment-290042</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is either a) a hoax, or b) sheer ignorance on the part of the journalist. My bets are on both being true.

Chris Weimer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is either a) a hoax, or b) sheer ignorance on the part of the journalist. My bets are on both being true.</p>
<p>Chris Weimer</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It was found that the inscriptions of this early period were usually simple, since writing was still in its early stages, and consequently there was difficulty in deciphering the writing on these coins.&quot;

This is the most bizzare part of this Al-Ahram article. Since when is the Second Intermidate Period (when Joseph presumably lived) an &quot;early period&quot; when writing was &quot;still in its early stages&quot;!!?? Ancient Egypt was already ancient by that time and writing had already been in use for at least 1500 years. In my Middle Egyptian language classes, I read full-blown Egyptian literature that had been written centuries before Joseph lived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was found that the inscriptions of this early period were usually simple, since writing was still in its early stages, and consequently there was difficulty in deciphering the writing on these coins.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the most bizzare part of this Al-Ahram article. Since when is the Second Intermidate Period (when Joseph presumably lived) an &#8220;early period&#8221; when writing was &#8220;still in its early stages&#8221;!!?? Ancient Egypt was already ancient by that time and writing had already been in use for at least 1500 years. In my Middle Egyptian language classes, I read full-blown Egyptian literature that had been written centuries before Joseph lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Mykytiuk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Mykytiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This newspaper article presents two novelties simultaneously: first, that genuine coinage existed in second-millennium-B.C.E. Egypt, and second, that such coinage documents the biblical Joseph as a royal administrator.  Either of these by itself, if verified, would be a sensation.  That both should somehow appear in the same “revelation” properly arouses suspicion.  The matter should first have been treated by detailed presentation of evidence in a scholarly publication.  

An excellent example of proper presentation of a surprising phenomenon related to the development of coinage is Christine M. Thompson, “Sealed Silver in Iron Age Cisjordan and the ‘Invention’ of Coinage,” _Oxford Journal of Archaeology_ 22 (2003) 67–107; published online: 4 March 2003; available: http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/1468-0092.00005 . Speaking of precious metal discovered in shapes other than discs, the abstract reads, in part, “. . . [S]eals affixed to precious metals at times qualified them in a numismatic sense by guaranteeing weights set to standards as well as controlled composition.” Thompson’s article is the fruit of years of painstaking work and deserves much more attention than sensationalistic news items which provide no evidence. 

Because the photographs of scarabs are not labeled, I did not think that they were anything more than decoration for the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This newspaper article presents two novelties simultaneously: first, that genuine coinage existed in second-millennium-B.C.E. Egypt, and second, that such coinage documents the biblical Joseph as a royal administrator.  Either of these by itself, if verified, would be a sensation.  That both should somehow appear in the same “revelation” properly arouses suspicion.  The matter should first have been treated by detailed presentation of evidence in a scholarly publication.  </p>
<p>An excellent example of proper presentation of a surprising phenomenon related to the development of coinage is Christine M. Thompson, “Sealed Silver in Iron Age Cisjordan and the ‘Invention’ of Coinage,” _Oxford Journal of Archaeology_ 22 (2003) 67–107; published online: 4 March 2003; available: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/1468-0092.00005" rel="nofollow">http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/1468-0092.00005</a> . Speaking of precious metal discovered in shapes other than discs, the abstract reads, in part, “. . . [S]eals affixed to precious metals at times qualified them in a numismatic sense by guaranteeing weights set to standards as well as controlled composition.” Thompson’s article is the fruit of years of painstaking work and deserves much more attention than sensationalistic news items which provide no evidence. </p>
<p>Because the photographs of scarabs are not labeled, I did not think that they were anything more than decoration for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Smuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said this a couple of times already, but I’m struggling with this report. It is inaccurate. The use of the word ‘coins’ is not on. By consensus, the earliest known coins date to the seventh century BC which is long after Joseph and Genesis. This report leaves too many open ends and already people like Daniel are punching holes in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said this a couple of times already, but I’m struggling with this report. It is inaccurate. The use of the word ‘coins’ is not on. By consensus, the earliest known coins date to the seventh century BC which is long after Joseph and Genesis. This report leaves too many open ends and already people like Daniel are punching holes in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Codex: Biblical Studies Blogspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Coins or Scarabs?</title>
		<link>http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2009/09/25/coins-from-the-joseph-era-found-in-egypt/comment-page-1/#comment-290005</link>
		<dc:creator>Codex: Biblical Studies Blogspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Coins or Scarabs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel O. McClellan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel O. McClellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re aware, I have photographs up on my blog of two of the scarabs being pawned off as coins in that photo: http://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/joseph-era-egyptian-coins/.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re aware, I have photographs up on my blog of two of the scarabs being pawned off as coins in that photo: <a href="http://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/joseph-era-egyptian-coins/" rel="nofollow">http://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/joseph-era-egyptian-coins/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph-Era Egyptian &#8220;Coins&#8221; &#171; Daniel O. McClellan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph-Era Egyptian &#8220;Coins&#8221; &#171; Daniel O. McClellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] West and Jim Davila (and Tyler Williams) have comments up about a recent article from the Middle East Media Research Institute claiming [...]]]></description>
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