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		<title>By: Joon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ANE means Ancient Near East, the geographical and cultural area of the Middle East at the time of these events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANE means Ancient Near East, the geographical and cultural area of the Middle East at the time of these events.</p>
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		<title>By: Lois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does &quot;ANE&quot; mean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8220;ANE&#8221; mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler F. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler F. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess I am more uncomfortable with the notion it is OK to kill babies/children/women/men because they will go to heaven. That seems a bit of a perversion of NT teaching. Your last point foreshadows some of my own thoughts... recall I was primarily dealing with Copan in this post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am more uncomfortable with the notion it is OK to kill babies/children/women/men because they will go to heaven. That seems a bit of a perversion of <acronym title="New Testament">NT</acronym> teaching. Your last point foreshadows some of my own thoughts&#8230; recall I was primarily dealing with Copan in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the context of doing biblical theology, why is it uncomfortable to you to use the NT to address an OT problem, unless, of course, you do not accept the validity of NT revelation, which I expect is not the problem? If the NT affirms something about God that can help clarify the apparent capriciousness of God in the OT, shouldn&#039;t that be admissible in a discussion of God&#039;s character? 

If you want a typically OT response to your &quot;question,&quot; then look no further than Ecclesiastes, by which it is clear that you are being unnecessarily moralistic and are assuming that life is an &lt;i&gt;ultimate&lt;/i&gt; good, and death under herem an ultimate evil. According to Ecclesiastes, however, everything ends in vanity. Consequently, it is irrelevant how someone dies. The only good is whether they followed God&#039;s commandments in the time they are given. 

Additionally, it is critically important to note in this debate that Israel&#039;s perception of God&#039;s &quot;overreaching&quot; judgment is not limited to their enemies, In fact, most of the biblical narrative concerns God&#039;s activities with Israel, which include multiple destructions and exiles as well as periodic divine plagues and threats. In this respect, the Bible fundamentally grapples with suffering and death, and the uncertainty of life, yet in contrast to most Mesopotamian literature still affirms the ultimate goodness of God, whose ways are (a) often inscrutable and (b) not subject to human judgment. The goodness of God is demonstrated through creation, his acts of unfailing love and steadfastness towards those whom he favors, and his will that all people should have access to him, including Israel&#039;s greatest enemies, Egypt and Assyria. This, according to the OT, is sufficient basis for belief in God&#039;s goodness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the context of doing biblical theology, why is it uncomfortable to you to use the <acronym title="New Testament">NT</acronym> to address an <acronym title="Old Testament">OT</acronym> problem, unless, of course, you do not accept the validity of <acronym title="New Testament">NT</acronym> revelation, which I expect is not the problem? If the <acronym title="New Testament">NT</acronym> affirms something about God that can help clarify the apparent capriciousness of God in the <acronym title="Old Testament">OT</acronym>, shouldn&#8217;t that be admissible in a discussion of God&#8217;s character? </p>
<p>If you want a typically <acronym title="Old Testament">OT</acronym> response to your &#8220;question,&#8221; then look no further than Ecclesiastes, by which it is clear that you are being unnecessarily moralistic and are assuming that life is an <i>ultimate</i> good, and death under herem an ultimate evil. According to Ecclesiastes, however, everything ends in vanity. Consequently, it is irrelevant how someone dies. The only good is whether they followed God&#8217;s commandments in the time they are given. </p>
<p>Additionally, it is critically important to note in this debate that Israel&#8217;s perception of God&#8217;s &#8220;overreaching&#8221; judgment is not limited to their enemies, In fact, most of the biblical narrative concerns God&#8217;s activities with Israel, which include multiple destructions and exiles as well as periodic divine plagues and threats. In this respect, the Bible fundamentally grapples with suffering and death, and the uncertainty of life, yet in contrast to most Mesopotamian literature still affirms the ultimate goodness of God, whose ways are (a) often inscrutable and (b) not subject to human judgment. The goodness of God is demonstrated through creation, his acts of unfailing love and steadfastness towards those whom he favors, and his will that all people should have access to him, including Israel&#8217;s greatest enemies, Egypt and Assyria. This, according to the <acronym title="Old Testament">OT</acronym>, is sufficient basis for belief in God&#8217;s goodness.</p>
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		<title>By: Theology for the Masses &#187; A Summary of &#8220;Is Yahweh a Moral Monster?&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theology for the Masses &#187; A Summary of &#8220;Is Yahweh a Moral Monster?&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hundie Jo [dot] Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Summary of &#8220;Is Yahweh a Moral Monster?&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Glen Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look forward to seeing your own views - I was very disappointed in this aspect of Copan&#039;s article.

You (and other readers thinking about these issues) might find these two essays helpful: &lt;a href=&quot;http://christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How could a God of Love order the massacre/annihilation of the Canaanites?&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://christian-thinktank.com/rbutcher1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shouldn&#039;t the butchering of the Amalekite children be considered war crimes?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to seeing your own views &#8211; I was very disappointed in this aspect of Copan&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>You (and other readers thinking about these issues) might find these two essays helpful: <a href="http://christian-thinktank.com/qamorite.html" rel="nofollow">How could a God of Love order the massacre/annihilation of the Canaanites?</a> and <a href="http://christian-thinktank.com/rbutcher1.html" rel="nofollow">Shouldn&#8217;t the butchering of the Amalekite children be considered war crimes?</a></p>
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