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	<title>Comments on: Canada Day Special: Top Ten Canadian Biblical Scholars</title>
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		<title>By: Codex: Biblical Studies Blogspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Canada Day, Eh!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Codex: Biblical Studies Blogspot &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Canada Day, Eh!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] If you are interested, check out my post from last year where I highlighted the Top Ten Canadian Biblical Scholars. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you are interested, check out my post from last year where I highlighted the Top Ten Canadian Biblical Scholars. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My vote is cast for John Kloppenborg, even though I disagree with him on his basic premise on Q!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dan Sheffield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Sheffield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OT Scholar Daniel Block is second generation. he introduced me to Peter Craigie and R K Harrison.]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Hobbins</title>
		<link>http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/07/01/canada-day-special-top-ten-canadian-biblical-scholars/comment-page-1/#comment-154256</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hobbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s easy to name a lot of excellent biblical scholars who teach in Canada today, beyond those already mentioned: at random:

Ehud Ben-Zvi, Peter Richardson, Terry Donaldson, Stan Walters (a transplant, I realize); Craig Evans, Peter Flint (another transplant); W. Ward Gasque; Tim McLay, Francis Landy, Stanley Porter, Ian Provan, Adele Reinhartz, not to mention Robert Holmstedt and Tyler Williams. I have fond memories of John Hurd, R. K. Harrison, and George Montague from the good old days at U of T, but they are now retired, though perhaps writing still.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to name a lot of excellent biblical scholars who teach in Canada today, beyond those already mentioned: at random:</p>
<p>Ehud Ben-Zvi, Peter Richardson, Terry Donaldson, Stan Walters (a transplant, I realize); Craig Evans, Peter Flint (another transplant); W. Ward Gasque; Tim McLay, Francis Landy, Stanley Porter, Ian Provan, Adele Reinhartz, not to mention Robert Holmstedt and Tyler Williams. I have fond memories of John Hurd, R. K. Harrison, and George Montague from the good old days at U of T, but they are now retired, though perhaps writing still.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler F. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler F. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Robert,

I take your point. A huge problem is defining &quot;evangelical.&quot; I tend to prefer Marsden&#039;s historical and sociological definition of evangelicals as holding five characteristics: biblicism (authority of the Bible, not necessarily equated with strict inerrancy), conversionism (importance of a spiritually transformed life), activism (teh importance of evangelism and mission), crucicentrism (salvation based on the redemptive work of Christ), and pan-denominationalism. If you take this definition and put it on a continuum where one side is a broad evangelical and the other side is a conservative evangelical, then I would hazard a guess (and that is all it is) that Canadians tend to be a bit more left-leaning. For example, if you compare the Evangelical Theological Society in the States with the Canadian Evangelical Theological Association, the latter requires not statement of inerrancy (they need only be &quot;faithful to the primacy of Scripture&quot;).

If you are talking scholars, then I think the difference is still there, though there are many &quot;broad-minded&quot; evangelicals in the US as well (and vice versa).

Part of the problem is that &quot;evangelical&quot; is often used synonymously with &quot;fundamentalist&quot;, which is unfortunate since I believe that the latter are more than just evangelicals who are angry about something (to paraphrase Marsden&#039;s tongue in cheek definition). I cringed when the Christians profiled in the documentary Jesus Camp were called evangelicals (It made me want to finally abandon the term!)

At any rate, I believe there is a difference, though I agree it is difficult to pinpoint. It is part theological but also part sociological/cultural. 

A survey comparing academics would be quite fascinating, I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Robert,</p>
<p>I take your point. A huge problem is defining &#8220;evangelical.&#8221; I tend to prefer Marsden&#8217;s historical and sociological definition of evangelicals as holding five characteristics: biblicism (authority of the Bible, not necessarily equated with strict inerrancy), conversionism (importance of a spiritually transformed life), activism (teh importance of evangelism and mission), crucicentrism (salvation based on the redemptive work of Christ), and pan-denominationalism. If you take this definition and put it on a continuum where one side is a broad evangelical and the other side is a conservative evangelical, then I would hazard a guess (and that is all it is) that Canadians tend to be a bit more left-leaning. For example, if you compare the Evangelical Theological Society in the States with the Canadian Evangelical Theological Association, the latter requires not statement of inerrancy (they need only be &#8220;faithful to the primacy of Scripture&#8221;).</p>
<p>If you are talking scholars, then I think the difference is still there, though there are many &#8220;broad-minded&#8221; evangelicals in the US as well (and vice versa).</p>
<p>Part of the problem is that &#8220;evangelical&#8221; is often used synonymously with &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221;, which is unfortunate since I believe that the latter are more than just evangelicals who are angry about something (to paraphrase Marsden&#8217;s tongue in cheek definition). I cringed when the Christians profiled in the documentary Jesus Camp were called evangelicals (It made me want to finally abandon the term!)</p>
<p>At any rate, I believe there is a difference, though I agree it is difficult to pinpoint. It is part theological but also part sociological/cultural. </p>
<p>A survey comparing academics would be quite fascinating, I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holmstedt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Holmstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tyler,

An important addendum:

I should have contextualized my comment so that it was clear I, too, was referring to Canadian and American scholars, for whom I&#039;m not sure the typical usage of &quot;evangelical&quot; fits so well given the diversity I&#039;ve observed.  Thus, even more so than the typical pool for Barna&#039;s surveys, I&#039;d love to see something like this done on the academic crowd, with respondents identifying themselves as evangelical or not at the end of the survey.

(I wonder why it is that even the thought of such a survey makes me chuckle with an evil grin, reminiscent of Calvin at the beginning of some nefarious plan to torture Susie.  I may have to lie on the couch now and analyze myself for a while.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tyler,</p>
<p>An important addendum:</p>
<p>I should have contextualized my comment so that it was clear I, too, was referring to Canadian and American scholars, for whom I&#8217;m not sure the typical usage of &#8220;evangelical&#8221; fits so well given the diversity I&#8217;ve observed.  Thus, even more so than the typical pool for Barna&#8217;s surveys, I&#8217;d love to see something like this done on the academic crowd, with respondents identifying themselves as evangelical or not at the end of the survey.</p>
<p>(I wonder why it is that even the thought of such a survey makes me chuckle with an evil grin, reminiscent of Calvin at the beginning of some nefarious plan to torture Susie.  I may have to lie on the couch now and analyze myself for a while.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Holmstedt</title>
		<link>http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/07/01/canada-day-special-top-ten-canadian-biblical-scholars/comment-page-1/#comment-153649</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Holmstedt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler,

While there are certainly differences between Canadians and Americans, which we&#039;ve noticed after only 2 yrs up here (and I&#039;m sure this applies equally to the Canadian church and the U.S. church), I think your &quot;broad-minded&quot; comment applies only given a certain (and perhaps too narrow) definition of &quot;evangelical&quot; in the U.S.  Would you care to make explicit how you&#039;re defining evangelical?

I&#039;d be curious to see George Barna&#039;s definition (below) used to identify a similar test group in both places and then see if what kind of differences pop up.  

(Sorry to be picky; I just don&#039;t like undefined terms, particularly &quot;evangelical,&quot; being used so casually -- perhaps because I&#039;m one of those who is either included or excluded depending on a very small set of definitional differences.)

From www.barna.org
&quot;Evangelical&quot;
â€œEvangelicals&quot; meet the born again criteria plus seven other conditions. Those include saying their faith is very important in their life today; believing they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs about Christ with non-Christians; believing that Satan exists; believing that eternal salvation is possible only through grace, not works; believing that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; asserting that the Bible is accurate in all that it teaches; and describing God as the all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect deity who created the universe and still rules it today. Being classified as an evangelical is not dependent upon church attendance or the denominational affiliation of the church they attend. Respondents were not asked to describe themselves as &quot;evangelical.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>While there are certainly differences between Canadians and Americans, which we&#8217;ve noticed after only 2 yrs up here (and I&#8217;m sure this applies equally to the Canadian church and the U.S. church), I think your &#8220;broad-minded&#8221; comment applies only given a certain (and perhaps too narrow) definition of &#8220;evangelical&#8221; in the U.S.  Would you care to make explicit how you&#8217;re defining evangelical?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to see George Barna&#8217;s definition (below) used to identify a similar test group in both places and then see if what kind of differences pop up.  </p>
<p>(Sorry to be picky; I just don&#8217;t like undefined terms, particularly &#8220;evangelical,&#8221; being used so casually &#8212; perhaps because I&#8217;m one of those who is either included or excluded depending on a very small set of definitional differences.)</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.barna.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.barna.org</a><br />
&#8220;Evangelical&#8221;<br />
â€œEvangelicals&#8221; meet the born again criteria plus seven other conditions. Those include saying their faith is very important in their life today; believing they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs about Christ with non-Christians; believing that Satan exists; believing that eternal salvation is possible only through grace, not works; believing that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; asserting that the Bible is accurate in all that it teaches; and describing God as the all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect deity who created the universe and still rules it today. Being classified as an evangelical is not dependent upon church attendance or the denominational affiliation of the church they attend. Respondents were not asked to describe themselves as &#8220;evangelical.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler F. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler F. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Bryan,

I would say that in general Canadian evangelicals are more broadly minded than Americans, though this depends a great deal on the particular scholars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bryan,</p>
<p>I would say that in general Canadian evangelicals are more broadly minded than Americans, though this depends a great deal on the particular scholars.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan L</title>
		<link>http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/07/01/canada-day-special-top-ten-canadian-biblical-scholars/comment-page-1/#comment-153545</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like good criteria. Unfortunately not being in Canada or close enough to the action I wouldn&#039;t know who has contributed in that way. All I can tell is who teaches in Canada (a whole lot of great scholars!) 

Speaking of who teaches in Canada, would you say there are differences in Evangelical biblical scholars in Canada and the US? I often see people speak of differences between Evangelical biblical scholars in Europe and the US and I was wondering if the same could be said of Canada? For instance, is inerrancy a big deal among Evangelical scholars in Canada the way it seems like it is in America?

Thanks
Bryan L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like good criteria. Unfortunately not being in Canada or close enough to the action I wouldn&#8217;t know who has contributed in that way. All I can tell is who teaches in Canada (a whole lot of great scholars!) </p>
<p>Speaking of who teaches in Canada, would you say there are differences in Evangelical biblical scholars in Canada and the US? I often see people speak of differences between Evangelical biblical scholars in Europe and the US and I was wondering if the same could be said of Canada? For instance, is inerrancy a big deal among Evangelical scholars in Canada the way it seems like it is in America?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Bryan L</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler F. Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler F. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question, Bryan. I don&#039;t want to limit it to participation in CSBS, so I guess I it could refer to stuff like developing and promoting biblical studies at one&#039;s own institution or city. For example, Peter Craigie was involved with the CSBS, but also involved with the Interfaith community in Calgary.

Perhaps this isn&#039;t an important criterion, though I was thinking of something that represents a contribution to biblical studies beyond one&#039;s own research or one&#039;s immediate scholarly community. 

What do you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Bryan. I don&#8217;t want to limit it to participation in CSBS, so I guess I it could refer to stuff like developing and promoting biblical studies at one&#8217;s own institution or city. For example, Peter Craigie was involved with the CSBS, but also involved with the Interfaith community in Calgary.</p>
<p>Perhaps this isn&#8217;t an important criterion, though I was thinking of something that represents a contribution to biblical studies beyond one&#8217;s own research or one&#8217;s immediate scholarly community. </p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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