Comments on: The Lost Tomb of Jesus http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/ My musings on Biblical Studies, Biblical Hebrew, Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint, Popular Culture, Religion, Software, and pretty much anything else that interests me! Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:50:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Logstaff http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-127399 Logstaff Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:46:46 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-127399 Logstaff said…
I was seeing the moovie recently. I am surprised that the investigators clearly mentionned at the beginning of the moovie that the archeologist found the stone boxes with the bones inside. Also some skulls are standing arround in the corners of the cave. An archeologist has seen all these skeletons and apparently made an inventory of each of it. Here is an unanswered question… Who was that archeologist.. where is that report about the skeletons, and probably where are the drawings or photographs. I would expect that it would have been a routine job at least to analyze the remains in order to find out the age of the person??? Than the comment is done that because of the religious tradition of the jews a reburial was done. Now another question is obvious: I guess that such a reburial is not just done anywhere without inventory… so why is that entire moovie going arround the main trace? I was expecting that a team of investigators ready to scretch the bottom of the stone boxes in order to recover a couple bone chips for DNA analyze (which is a good way to trace all kind of info, for sure)… why such a team of “scientists” is not able to check at least the age of that individual by getting hold of the reburial place.. or to start with of the archeologist file describing the content of the stone box. That is why I felt strange about that theory.. all was tried out to malke the story look probable.. and than the most obvious control wasnt done…
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Also the reburried bones can be now 100% identified, since the DNA must be identical to the DNA already taken out of the stone box with the Jesus Name written on it.
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It would be of cause very interesting to check these bones in order to see if they could have been of a man aged like the Christian Jesus. Than it would be even better to discover the damages done to the bones on legs and hands, ribbs.. whatever.
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But here we expect too much…. Since probably the people who made all this reportage.. already saw the archeologist file.. which they hide in the moovie… that probably.. the bones found in that box.. did not fit the profile of the Christian Jesus… who knows.. maybe they found a guy 60 years old without his teeth.. than the entire story is ridiculous…
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Still an interesting point to mention: Who ever was burried in that precise grave, I think all agree that it is an ancient grave of the period of the christian Jesus. Now what I think is quite astonishing.. is that the symbols hammered into the rock over the entrance door to that tomb.. seem to me looking like some version of ALFA and OMEGA… You know that these greek letters stand for the Beginning and the End of all.. and that Jesus also used them in a speech to situate his mission on earth… so I just wish to mention this find.. this observation which to my surprise even the film maker did not mention.. and it would be quite in favor of their theories… or at least it is quite “greek”.. to put that alfa and Omega in front of a commun jewish grave..
Any Comments welcome!

]]> By: eric http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-102148 eric Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:05:25 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-102148 just wanting to add to my previous comment … many would say that it comes down to faith. I have heard from various people across various faiths the redundant expression: “i just know it to be true because I feel it inside to be true … my personal experience verifies it.” I believe that these people really believe what they feel is the truth. But … what if I told you that I really believe inside myself that worshipping the moon provides all the peace and life answers you need. Or, that I just simply know that the faithful are gathered eventually at the tailend of a dashing comet (this actually happened). You might say in return … buddy, its time for some respirodal or zyprexa, 0.5 mgs, t.i.d. No, we can’t abandon careful research and reason, and if it strongly contradicts what we believe, move on. I am a Christian, but also a freethinker and openminded, I hope.

]]> By: eric http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-102146 eric Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:39:16 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-102146 in response to Keziah … what would you really think of a god who “sovereignly arranged this tomb to deceive?” Is God a deceiver? There are so many religions out there; shouldn’t we use our reasoning ability and whatever evidence we can gather to formulate what seems most plausible to us? In that case, would a soverign God allow for devine deception to contradict (using our intellect the best and most responsible way we can) which was given us to make good choices?

]]> By: Keziah http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-100833 Keziah Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:47:56 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-100833 I am Christian and have no problem with this documentary. I believe it fits perfectly with Scripture and that God may have even sovereignly arranged this tomb to deceive in order to bring about the apostasy (falling away from the faith). 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 states that the apostasy will come before the second coming of Christ and 2 Thess. 2:11 states: “And for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness”, New American Standard Version. I am excited about this documentary and believe it is simply a sign of the times occurring before the second coming of Christ. It doesn’t destroy my faith, it strengthens it.

]]> By: K. Gabrielle http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-100825 K. Gabrielle Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:30:57 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-100825 I find it disturbing that people who are self proclaimed followers of Christ are so eager to dispute any possibility of his body being found, or of him have a normal family life. It was frowned upon for a Rabbi of his age to be single, and as a believer of the Torah it is likely he would follow the direction given by God to go fourth and populate the earth. It seems only natural that Jesus would marry a woman who shared his passion for ministry and that they would start a family. Additionally I feel that it is imperative that the origins and authors/editors of what has come to be known as the Bible are outed once and for all. If it was well known that Constantine (A Pagan emperor) commissioned the council of Nicia to assemble the books now know as the Bible so that he could woo his Christian (at that time a cult) lover to be his bride and gain greater control over his Christian population I think many would take interest in where the original writings came from and what was left out. Important topics like female divinity and equality between genders (something Christianity has been so very happy to suppress for hundreds of years, resulting in the untimely death of millions of women) might finally get the attention they deserve.
That being said, give me more historic and DNA evidence and let’s continue with scientific research. It is of no consequence that this may not match current religious beliefs. At one time religious scholars killed Jesus because he did not fit into their beliefs. Let’s not be as quick to judge as they once were.

]]> By: Chakradhar http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-98870 Chakradhar Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:54:02 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-98870 Is it written any where that God shouldn’t have Family. So even though the mysteries were known it doesn’t mean that we loose faith in God.

]]> By: Chakradhar http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-98869 Chakradhar Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:53:47 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-98869 Is it written any where that God shouldn’t have Family. So the even though the mysteries were known it doesn’t mean that we loose faith in God.

]]> By: Seyi Rhodes http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-98863 Seyi Rhodes Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:27:51 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-98863 Thanks SD Scotty for this insight. I am not a scholar, and was brought up in Anglican church here in the UK… I realise now that Anglicans are quite liberal in their reading of the word.. They accept both creationism and evolution, and Im pretty certain theyre of the opinion that hs spirit rose to heaven.. their open-mindedness towards science means they couldnt accept anything else!! I have to object that this is in some way ‘central’ to the concept of faith though.. surely one can be faithful without believing in a physical ascent to heaven! I believe strongly in the man, his thoughts and influence, but i dont see him floating -literally- through the clouds! Why is this so important when the man spoke of love for ALL men and cooperation etc. (values lost even on many christians today)surely those theories are more imoportant than his flying to heaven or not!!
Its intersting that this debate is no way as ‘threatening’ to Anglican christians… while many dont believe it is Jesus tomb, they dont feel threatened by it.
Something strikes me about the quote from Paul: “And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith..” Its interesting cos here is a man dealing with hatred and scepticism all the time, trying to keep the faithful.. well… faithful. I dont think its surprising that he spoke in such absolutes at the time.. Surely we dont have to immerse ourselves in that kind of ‘war time’ mentaity?!?
As for the anger: Christians of all shades need too choose their battles.. You realise that in liberal society many people think Jesus didnt live.. even muslims believe he lived!! Our battles should surely be with those who dont believe a word of the NT story.. not the ones who want to explore it further!!
Having said that Im not even a christian anymore, so why am i bothered!!
haha

]]> By: eBay David http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-98710 eBay David Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:40:18 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-98710 John Wood asked: “When will the assualt on Islam or the Eastern religions begin?”

It will never begin, John, for the simple reason that all assaults on our faith come from one source: Satan. He has no reason to attack any other religion or cult, for an attack on any of the false religions would create the headlines like the “Tomb” issue has, and would result in these people waking up and coming to salvation. And we all know the father of lies wouldn’t want that to happen, he’s got these lost souls right where he wants them: comfortable and not assailing the gates of hell.

]]> By: Ann http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-98670 Ann Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:46:01 +0000 http://biblical-studies.ca/blog/wp/2007/02/25/the-lost-tomb-of-jesus/#comment-98670 I will simply keep in mind what Christ said in Matthew 24 26-28 as I weigh the data.

So if anyone tells you, “There he is out in the desert,” do not go out; or Here he is , in the inner rooms,” do not believe it. For as lighting that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.”

Either which way it won’t impact my faith.

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